Nursing

[Dee]

Recently I attended a party where everyone was either a RN or an LVN. They all seemed to be employed and doing OK, even in this economy. Most off them were strongly advising others to join the field.

From what I understand, it was a “hot job” several years ago, but what about now and later?

[VolvoDriver]

have you talked to Julia K. yet?

[Dee]

have you talked to Julia K. yet?

yes I have:)

[baraban]

Recently I attended a party where everyone was either a RN or an LVN. They all seemed to be employed and doing OK, even in this economy. Most off them were strongly advising others to join the field.

From what I understand, it was a “hot job” several years ago, but what about now and later?

My brother-in-law became an RN about a year ago - he likes it a lot. He is saying that there are fewer sick people at the hospital these days, so they have cut everyone's hours.

[Dee]

My brother-in-law became an RN about a year ago - he likes it a lot. He is saying that there are fewer sick people at the hospital these days, so they have cut everyone's hours.

Perhaps less people can afford to be sick now days:)

I know that most nurses like what they do, and all have no problem getting work. No ved' rynok ne rezinovyj?

[Mark]

No ved' rynok ne rezinovyj?

Население Мерики стареет. Огромная масса дерьма под названием Baby Boomers 1946-1964 года рождения, которые детей не рожали и налогов не платили, только всё прожигали и просирали, сейчас будут стареть и болеть. И кому-то надо эту мерзость лечить и за ними смотреть. Поэтому пока этому рынку сокращения не грозят.

[Dee]

Население Мерики стареет. Огромная масса дерьма под названием Baby Boomers 1946-1964 года рождения, которые детей не рожали и налогов не платили, только всё прожигали и просирали, сейчас будут стареть и болеть. И кому-то надо эту мерзость лечить и за ними смотреть. Поэтому пока этому рынку сокращения не грозят.


Have you ever considered nursing?

[Jessica Rabbit]

Население Мерики стареет. Огромная масса дерьма под названием Baby Boomers 1946-1964 года рождения, которые детей не рожали и налогов не платили, только всё прожигали и просирали, сейчас будут стареть и болеть. И кому-то надо эту мерзость лечить и за ними смотреть. Поэтому пока этому рынку сокращения не грозят.
Марко, а соц. реформа в больничках может ли отразиться на зарплатах и условиях труда медсестёр, на твой пророческий взгляд?

[Mark]

Most off them were strongly advising others to join the field.

Не все могут работать в этой области. Мне, например, здоровым людям хочется дать дубиной по голове, когда они код херачат и халтуру гонят. А уж с больными (как впрочем и просто с дебилками) меня и на 5 минут не хватает. Я б им всем 110v в кровать запустил бы, чтоб тонус поднять! :)

Я побывал в госпиталях ввиду болезни своих родственников и кое-что там видел. Я лично эту работу ни за какие деньги делать не смогу. Я вообще не представляю, как мед. персонал выдерживает смену когда вокруг дикий стресс, страдания, боль, кровь, грязь, стоны, кто-то присмерти...

Я могу делать только интеллектуальную работу. :)

[Mark]

Have you ever considered nursing?

Уже ответил. :)

[Dee]

Уже ответил. :)

check your e-mail.

[Jessica Rabbit]

check your e-mail.
Did you send him a love letter?

[Dee]

Did you send him a love letter?

Yes, I send him one every day:)

[Dee]

Марко, а соц. реформа в больничках может ли отразиться на зарплатах и условиях труда медсестёр, на твой пророческий взгляд?

That is why I wanted his opinion:)
He loves to point out the bad side of things, and that is what I need now:)

[Dee]

have you talked to Julia K. yet?

Na samom dele ona ne samyh podhodyashij primer. She is very high up that chain. Most nurses only dream of getting there.

[Mark]

Did you send him a love letter?

Да, love letter... из психушки... :)

[Mark]

Yes, I send him one every day:)

А адрес "на деревню дедушке" пишешь? :)

[Dee]

А адрес "на деревню дедушке" пишешь? :)

I have a good memory:)

[Svintus]

Recently I attended a party where everyone was either a RN or an LVN.
Там была моя бывшая любоффь?

[Jessica Rabbit]

Na samom dele ona ne samyh podhodyashij primer. She is very high up that chain. Most nurses only dream of getting there.
В смысле, она вышла замуж за главврача? :)

[Dee]

Там была моя бывшая любоффь?

No, but some off her friends were:)
I actually will be giving her a call to talk about this.

[Solominka]

No, but some off her friends were:)
I actually will be giving her a call to talk about this.

Honey, don't rush into anything. In the times of crisis, health care thrives, for sure - but they are looking for cuts in that direction, too, in the States as well, I believe, and nurses are vulnerable.
Plus: it takes 4 years of education to become a nurse. You may become a nursing aid, but it's a different story entirely. In any case, unless you have the Master's in the field, I believe that across North America it's a burdernsome, exhausting, physical job... On top of it, it's only people that are permanently employed that enjoy the salary, security and benefits... There is a hiring freeze across Canada - and I don't think the situation is very different in the States - my friend who is a nurse and myself were lucky enough to apply for jobs and get into the system before it happened, but it was a close call. Private health-related practices are struggling. A number of private psychology practices that I know are facing bankruptcy. If you go into nursing, as a casual - contract - worker, you won't get ANYTHING out of it. Please consider it further. And think long-term, too. When I was choosing a career, everyone was rushing into computers, because it was a "hot" field. Nowadays, it's public health care and education that matter - but for who long? Many people are rushing into it, that I know for sure, and things may not work out so well for the newcomers. Once you are in, if we are talking about essential clinical services, you are in - but they may just not let you in, and you will waste several years getting the education that won't do you any good...
Sorry, babe, don't mean to put the damper on your plans, but I just read your posts and started to get concerned... Even though I am in Canada, not in the States, I still suspect I am a slightly better authority on these questions than your correspondant Mark... :):)
PS: miss you, will call you soon!!

[Jessica Rabbit]

Девочки, это ещё не самая страшная ситуация с карьерами, какая может иметь место.

Помницца, в 90-х я подыскивала новую работу в ночную смену в каком-нибудь злачном месте. Однажды пришла по объявлению в ресторан, потому что им требовалась официантка. Меня вроде намеревались взять, провели по помещению, показали что и как. И в самом конце беседы вдруг добавили: "Ах, да, у нас официантки по очереди танцуют вот у этой палочки." И ещё добавили: "Голенькими!"
ыыыыыыыы Я затормозила и до сих пор раздумываю над тем предложением.
Наверное, надо соглашаться. :cool:

[Mark]

I still suspect I am a slightly better authority on these questions than your correspondant Mark... :):)

А вот не надо на меня пальцой показывать. :)

Я никаких гарантий никому не давал. Меня спросили моё мнение касательно преспектив развития рынка медицины и наличия работы. Я ответил, что согласно всем отчётам этот рынок будет расти. Но также я предположил различные варианты развития событий, когда не смотря на рост самого рынка, работы там может быть тоже достаточно ограничено. Как пример, медицину можно outsource в Мексику (сейчас это делается с зубами, и мериканские пенсионеры переезжают в Мексику, чтобы иметь мед. страховку, там мед. страховка стоит 250 в год и очень неплохая медицина, всё покрывает) и также можно выдать кучу рабочих виз для NR из Индии, Мексики и т.п.

[Dee]

I wanted everyone’s opinion. For the most part I’ve heard good things about the field. I was actually hopping Mark would do a good job in turning me against it. :)

[Drey]

I wanted everyone’s opinion. For the most part I’ve heard good things about the field. I was actually hopping Mark would do a good job in turning me against it. :)

if you like stable job and decent pay (95 - 130k) and can put up with somewhat boring working environment, and have BA, why don't you consider career of a Pharmacist? you dont need to deal with patients, and you can have flexibility of working either at hospital, department store pharmacy, or have a private business.
you would need to get masters degree for that, and it takes 4 yrs but i know people getting that done in 3 yrs.

[Dee]

if you like stable job and decent pay (95 - 130k) and can put up with somewhat boring working environment, and have BA, why don't you consider career of a Pharmacist? you dont need to deal with patients, and you can have flexibility of working either at hospital, department store pharmacy, or have a private business.
you would need to get masters degree for that, and it takes 4 yrs but i know people getting that done in 3 yrs.

Mne pochemuto kazhetsya chto na nursing bol'she sprosa:puzzled:

[Jessica Rabbit]

Mne pochemuto kazhetsya chto na nursing bol'she sprosa:puzzled:
Have you considered accounting? :) :)

[Drey]

Mne pochemuto kazhetsya chto na nursing bol'she sprosa:puzzled:

the biggest demand is for janitors :) i think to be RN and work with people one requires призвание.

any way: do your homework to make the right decision. фаpмацевтов очень не хватает и с работой никаких проблем нет, most grad schools guarantee a job placement ;) сравни среднюю зарплату RN и фармацевта v LA or for any zip code on salary.com you'll see that pharmacists start at where the highest paid RNs are. if you feel lazy, here is another info to look at the 100s of job ads for pharmacists offering over 140k in CA http://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=Pharmacist+%24130%2C000&l=California

[Jessica Rabbit]

the biggest demand is for janitors :) i think to be RN and work with people one requires призвание.

any way: do you homework to make the right decision. фаpмацевтов очень не хватает и с работой никаких проблем нет, most grad schools guarantee a job placement ;) сравни среднюю зарплату RN и фармацевта v LA or for any zip code on salary.com you'll see that pharmacists start at where the highest paid RNs are. if you feel lazy, here is another info to look at the job ads for pharmacists offering over 140k in CA http://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=Pharmacist+%24130%2C000&l=California
What about graffic designers? Are they still doing good? :)

[Drey]

What about graffic designers? Are they still doing good? :)

depends... like with any new profession, gr. designers profession evolves and requires growing improvements from people... what was paying a lot cash 10 years ago, today could be done much cheaper and much faster. nowadays there are some diff specialties just in graphic design and animation... but again to be good and make good money you have to be good at it ;)

[Drey]

What about graffic designers? Are they still doing good? :)

Янка, иди в аптеку работать :) и на мужа с детьми денег хватит, и на себя останется ;)

[Jessica Rabbit]

Янка, иди в аптеку работать :) и на мужа с детьми денег хватит, и на себя останется ;)
I might go for it, thanks, I loved chemistry at school. :)

[Drey]

I might go for it, thanks, I loved chemistry at school. :)

there you go... :) you owe me a dinner from your first pay check as a pharmacist ;) and by the way... there are on-line schools offering master in pharmacy

[Jessica Rabbit]

there you go... :) you owe me a dinner from your first pay check as a pharmacist ;) and by the way... there are on-line schools offering master in pharmacy
All right! :character0104: Ты готов ждать обещанного 4 года? :)

[Drey]

All right! :character0104: Ты готов ждать обещанного 4 года? :)

no :) but you on the other hand will remind me because you will be very thankful :tongue:

[stud becker]

All right! :character0104: Ты готов ждать обещанного 4 года? :)
Get him nice dish with mushrooms

[Svintus]

"Я работаю в аптеке,
Продаю лекарствы всяки,
От поносов, от запоров
И от нестоянья члена.
И ко мне приходят люди,
Все кривые да больные,
Бабы, все в прыщах громадных,
Чтоб свести их поскорее.
Просят всяки марганцовки,
Перекиси водородов.
И презервативов пачку
Им даю я вместо сдачи.
А надысь ввалилась шумно
Комсомольцев наглых стайка
И достать просили слёзно
Эфедрина, да побольше...

А не то, кричат, подохнет
Первый секретарь райкома
Срочно требует, мол, джефа -
Оторваться дюже хочет.
Посылаю я их на хуй
С этой просьбой несуразной,
И они уходят грустно,
И меня не беспокоят..."

[Jessica Rabbit]

:grin: :cheers: