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Rozka

6th February 2009, 10:12

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090206/ap_on_re_us/octuplets
Зачем тебе работа? That's the way to go! :cheers:

*****...Unemployed single mother living at home with her parents..Obviously has no means to support or raise little bastards...
BTW, her last name is Suleman, which is an americanized form or Suleiman. Where do you think her roots are? ;) She's a fcking camel-hoof polisher. No big fcking surprise there.

Yanka

6th February 2009, 11:14

For some reason, my comp refuses to show me the article. But from Rozka's comments, I understood some lady had 8 babies at once. :cheers:
Actually, a strange thing happened to me this week. I decided that I'm pregnant. All the odds and common sense were against it. But the thing is, no birthcontrol gives you 100% pregnancy-free guarantee. So, I felt sick and decided this thing happened to me again because otherwise I would never feel sick. I peeed on a test - it showed me I'm not pregnant. But I didn't believe it ('cause it's only 99% accurate) and went to doctor. The doctor couldn't find any baby in me either. But I didn't believe to doctor either because I just don't trust anyone. So, I went to a lab and gave them some blood to make sure I'm 100% not pregnant. But I still feel pregnant.
I guess I do need a job or a new baby. :grin:

darkie

6th February 2009, 11:22

Тяжело судить о Пастернаке, по заметкам людей которые его не читали но осуждают. :tongue:

Там не просто про многодетную мать. Там про суррогатную многодетную мать, которая их за деньги производит. ;)

Yanka

6th February 2009, 11:43

baraban

6th February 2009, 12:15

:grin:

:) Then no, it's not my thing. I don't make any money, I spend them only. :cool:

The woman of Arab decent is single, unemployed and living with her mother. She already had 6 kids - all in vitro, but wanted more... So now, after having 6 embryos implemented at the same time, some of which divided, she has 8 more kids. She does not get paid to do it, but I am guessing that the state of California pays to take care of all of them...

Yanka

6th February 2009, 12:30

Does the article say the lady is poor? Maybe she, her mother and all the kids have old family money and don't even qualify for the state aid?
Making kids just to get little support money from government seems a strange choice.
Maybe she had religious motives to make as many babies as possible? :puzzled:

Rozka

6th February 2009, 14:56

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090206/ap_on_re_us/octuplets
Зачем тебе работа? That's the way to go! :cheers:

Rozka(zhena)Ti prav! A eshe lushe esli bi ona uehala obratno.

Drey

6th February 2009, 23:10

The woman of Arab decent...

does it have to do with anything? :puzzled:

Yanka

7th February 2009, 01:04

I tried to watch the discussion of this story on TV, but still didn't get it, it seems crazy. TV commentators were pretty mean to that unusual mother.
And they say she wants to do the reality show about her family's life and make her babies earn their living that way.

I've noticed that jewish people always pay close attention to anyone's nationality and consider it an important factor. why?

Solominka

7th February 2009, 15:05

I just read the article. It doesn't say a word about her selling embryos for money. It sounds like she is a somewhat psychological unbalanced woman (my personal intepretation) who wants to have chldren to provide her with meaning of life and to help her cope with emotional pain. I think it was irresponsible on the part of the physician to go ahead with so many embryos without even checking into her financial AND psychological state.
She says that she would get financial support from family and the church (the latter btw suggests that she is not Muslim - although for the love of god I don't see how her descent would have anything to do with her emotional difficulties).

Prickol

7th February 2009, 18:01

I tried to watch the discussion of this story on TV, but still didn't get it, it seems crazy. TV commentators were pretty mean to that unusual mother.
Well, she loves to have many kids living on food stamps and money supply by taxpayers- sort of free ride за ваш счет

Yanka

7th February 2009, 20:52

Well, she loves to have many kids living on food stamps and money supply by taxpayers- sort of free ride за ваш счет
Ну и что? Может, один из её эмбрионов изобретёт лекарство от рака, когда вырастет, и этим лекарством вылечат восемь умирающих налогоплатильщиков. В природе ж круговорот.
Помогать бедным женщинам воспитывать детей - святое дело, не ворчи. Какой-то жрачки по талонам ему жалко... Не умирать же детям с голоду?
На налогоплатильщиков повесили жирных прощелыг-финансовиков - никто не возникает. Но почему-то все набросились на несчастную роженицу. Стыдно.
Я хочу послать ей коробку памперсов. Дайте адрес.

П.С. Розка не прав. А Розалинду - в буткэмп!

baraban

8th February 2009, 11:09

does it have to do with anything? :puzzled:

It speaks to her state of mind...

Drey

8th February 2009, 11:53

It speaks to her state of mind...

what state of mind would that be? all "women of Arab decent" are inclined to some sort of craziness? ;) hehehehe i don't think they are any different from any other nationality.
as for that particular lady, i think doctors should be limited by some law to a certain number of kids they can help to "produce" unless presented a prove of financial support to raise them.

Solominka

8th February 2009, 13:21

what state of mind would that be? all "women of Arab decent" are inclined to some sort of craziness? ;) hehehehe i don't think they are any different from any other nationality.

Agreed. Drew:)

Actually, I would go further and suggest that it's a Russian "descent" that spells troubles in terms of predilection for craziness:):)
:cheers:

Solominka

8th February 2009, 13:22

Ну и что? Может, один из её эмбрионов изобретёт лекарство от рака, когда вырастет, и этим лекарством вылечат восемь умирающих налогоплатильщиков. В природе ж круговорот.
Помогать бедным женщинам воспитывать детей - святое дело, не ворчи. Какой-то жрачки по талонам ему жалко... Не умирать же детям с голоду?
На налогоплатильщиков повесили жирных прощелыг-финансовиков - никто не возникает. Но почему-то все набросились на несчастную роженицу. Стыдно.
Я хочу послать ей коробку памперсов. Дайте адрес.

П.С. Розка не прав. А Розалинду - в буткэмп!

I think it's an old exercise in ethics - I forget the premise, but the ending - you just aborted Beethoven and killed Einstein:)

baraban

8th February 2009, 14:20

what state of mind would that be? all "women of Arab decent" are inclined to some sort of craziness? ;) hehehehe i don't think they are any different from any other nationality.
as for that particular lady, i think doctors should be limited by some law to a certain number of kids they can help to "produce" unless presented a prove of financial support to raise them.

I was joking about the state of mind - just playing along the theme that was brought up earlier. (A friend told me that she was of Christian Arab decent.)

Apparently there are guidelines, that this particular doctor chose to ignore.

Drey

8th February 2009, 14:45

Agreed. Drew:)

Actually, I would go further and suggest that it's a Russian "descent" that spells troubles in terms of predilection for craziness:):)
:cheers:

oh yeah... i would agree :grin: crazy and reckless, the good thing is that all mainly towards themselves ;)

Yanka

8th February 2009, 15:09

I think it's an old exercise in ethics - I forget the premise, but the ending - you just aborted Beethoven and killed Einstein:)
Я не против абортов или убийства эмбрионов, если это выбор женщины. (Хотя я буду против, если дело коснётся меня лично :) )

Я против любых законов, которые диктуют людям правила их личной жизни. Никто не должен указывать женщине, можно ли ей иметь детей и сколько.
А то давайте, вообще, истреблять всех граждан, по каким-либо причинам не способных себя прокормить? (чтоб не размножались) Это был бы очень экономически выгодный для общества шаг.

Я против многих законов, ограничивающих частную жизнь населения. Почему положено иметь только одного супруга? Почему голубым нельзя жениться? Почему проституция запрещена? Отчего наркотики нелегальны?
Кому какое дело?
:grin:

Yanka

8th February 2009, 15:12

oh yeah... i would agree :grin: crazy and reckless, the good thing is that all mainly towards themselves ;)

though when one is reckless towards him/herself - it unavoidably affects other people that are close by. :sad:

Drey

8th February 2009, 16:46

Я против любых законов, которые диктуют людям правила их личной жизни.

she could do whatever she pleased to do in her bedroom, that would be her private life. but how is it private if she went to hospital to insiminate herself? if doctors cannot control number of kids they "help to produce" they should not use that exact method.

Drey

8th February 2009, 16:50

though when one is reckless towards him/herself - it unavoidably affects other people that are close by. :sad:

...just the same way as your believing not to impose any rules on their "private life" ;)
you let people do whatever they want, someone gets hurt...

Yanka

9th February 2009, 10:29

...just the same way as your believing not to impose any rules on their "private life" ;)
you let people do whatever they want, someone gets hurt...
:) Ну ладно, уговорил.
Всем многодетным мамашам - по смирительной рубашке!

Prickol

14th February 2009, 11:23

Я не против абортов или убийства эмбрионов, если это выбор женщины. (Хотя я буду против, если дело коснётся меня лично :) )

Я против любых законов, которые диктуют людям правила их личной жизни. Никто не должен указывать женщине, можно ли ей иметь детей и сколько.
А то давайте, вообще, истреблять всех граждан, по каким-либо причинам не способных себя прокормить? (чтоб не размножались) Это был бы очень экономически выгодный для общества шаг.

Я против многих законов, ограничивающих частную жизнь населения. Почему положено иметь только одного супруга? Почему голубым нельзя жениться? Почему проституция запрещена? Отчего наркотики нелегальны?
Кому какое дело?
:grin:Извини, но если она неработающая мать одиночка и произвела уже 14 детей которых (и ее в том числе) будут кормить налогоплательщики я не думаю что этим самым налогоплательщикам не должно быть никакого дела

Solominka

14th February 2009, 15:24

Извини, но если она неработающая мать одиночка и произвела уже 14 детей которых (и ее в том числе) будут кормить налогоплательщики я не думаю что этим самым налогоплательщикам не должно быть никакого дела

It doesn't sound like a very healthy scenario for her in any case... yet, I thought it was explicitly stated in the article that she is NOT on social assistance.

baraban

14th February 2009, 17:29

It doesn't sound like a very healthy scenario for her in any case... yet, I thought it was explicitly stated in the article that she is NOT on social assistance.

I am sure that she is on social assistance. Where did you see that she was not?

Solominka

14th February 2009, 19:45

I am sure that she is on social assistance. Where did you see that she was not?

Suleman said she had never been on welfare and would find a way to get by with the help of family, friends and her church. She said she planned to return to school in the fall.
(c)
This citation is fom the article cited by Prickol in the first post.

Yanka

15th February 2009, 21:21

Извини, но если она неработающая мать одиночка и произвела уже 14 детей которых (и ее в том числе) будут кормить налогоплательщики я не думаю что этим самым налогоплательщикам не должно быть никакого дела
ой, эти наголоплатильщики кормят кого ни попадя.

Налогоплатильщики не могут решать, иметь ей детей или нет, и платить ей пособие или нет. :tongue:
Всё, что они могут - ходить на голосование или какую-нибудь демонстрацию время от времени. :rolleyes:

Yanka

15th February 2009, 21:26

Suleman said she had never been on welfare and would find a way to get by with the help of family, friends and her church. She said she planned to return to school in the fall.
(c)
This citation is fom the article cited by Prickol in the first post.
I heard it too. The school thing sounds unrealistic though.
I feel for her church community. :)

Prickol

16th February 2009, 12:49

ой, эти наголоплатильщики кормят кого ни попадя.

Налогоплатильщики не могут решать, иметь ей детей или нет, и платить ей пособие или нет. :tongue:
Всё, что они могут - ходить на голосование или какую-нибудь демонстрацию время от времени. :rolleyes:Чтой-то тебя так задело... Ты тоже на пособии, бэби? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :lovey: :cheers: