The Catcher in the Rye

[Yanka]

Я слышала, убийца Джона Леннона читал "Над пропастью во ржи" прямо на месте преступления. А также, многие другие менее известные психи-стакеры чтили эту книгу. Я тоже её однажды прочитала. Мир глазами травмированного мальчика. Я не понимаю что в этой книгe такого значительного. Кто-нибудь знает?

[Stavka100]

Автор оригинала: Yanka
Я слышала, убийца Джона Леннона читал "Над пропастью во ржи" прямо на месте преступления. А также, многие другие менее известные психи-стакеры чтили эту книгу. Я тоже её однажды прочитала. Мир глазами травмированного мальчика. Я не понимаю что в этой книгe такого значительного. Кто-нибудь знает?

A troubled mind is unpredictable.

[IPshniK]

Although The Catcher in the Rye caused considerable controversy when it was first published in 1951, the book—the account of three disoriented days in the life of a troubled sixteen-year-old boy—was an instant hit. Within two weeks after its release, it was listed number one on The New York Times best-seller list, and it stayed there for thirty weeks. It remained immensely popular for many years, especially among teenagers and young adults, largely because of its fresh, brash style and anti-establishment attitudes—typical attributes of many people emerging from the physical and psychological turmoil of adolescence.

It also was the bane of many parents, who objected to the main character's obscene language, erratic behavior, and antisocial attitudes. Responding to the irate protests, numerous school and public libraries and bookstores removed the book from their shelves. Holden simply was not a good role model for the youth of the 1950s, in the view of many conservative adults. Said J. D. Salinger himself, in a rare published comment, "I'm aware that many of my friends will be saddened and shocked, or shock-saddened, over some of the chapters in The Catcher in the Rye. Some of my best friends are children. In fact, all my best friends are children. It's almost unbearable for me to realize that my book will be kept on a shelf out of their reach." The clamor over the book undoubtedly contributed to its popularity among the young: It became the forbidden fruit in the garden of literature. For some reason—perhaps because of the swirling controversies over his written works—Salinger retreated from the New York literary scene in the 1960s to a bucolic New Hampshire community called Cornish, where he has lived a very private life and avidly avoided the press. Despite the fact that he has granted few interviews, there is a substantial body of critical and biographical works about Salinger and his all-too-brief list of literary creations.

http://www.enotes.com/catcher/27608

[Yanka]

Originally posted by IPshniK
Although The Catcher in the Rye caused considerable controversy when it was first published in 1951, the book—the account of three disoriented days in the life of a troubled sixteen-year-old boy—was an instant hit. Within two weeks after its release, it was listed number one on The New York Times best-seller list, and it stayed there for thirty weeks. It remained immensely popular for many years, especially among teenagers and young adults, largely because of its fresh, brash style and anti-establishment attitudes—typical attributes of many people emerging from the physical and psychological turmoil of adolescence.

It also was the bane of many parents, who objected to the main character's obscene language, erratic behavior, and antisocial attitudes. Responding to the irate protests, numerous school and public libraries and bookstores removed the book from their shelves. Holden simply was not a good role model for the youth of the 1950s, in the view of many conservative adults. Said J. D. Salinger himself, in a rare published comment, "I'm aware that many of my friends will be saddened and shocked, or shock-saddened, over some of the chapters in The Catcher in the Rye. Some of my best friends are children. In fact, all my best friends are children. It's almost unbearable for me to realize that my book will be kept on a shelf out of their reach." The clamor over the book undoubtedly contributed to its popularity among the young: It became the forbidden fruit in the garden of literature. For some reason—perhaps because of the swirling controversies over his written works—Salinger retreated from the New York literary scene in the 1960s to a bucolic New Hampshire community called Cornish, where he has lived a very private life and avidly avoided the press. Despite the fact that he has granted few interviews, there is a substantial body of critical and biographical works about Salinger and his all-too-brief list of literary creations.

http://www.enotes.com/catcher/27608

I don't know what they are talking about. I'm not a teen but liked it. The language was not too terrible, it was just a speach of a regular kid. Try to read Berroughs is you wanna read something real disguasting.
And the book doesn't teach kids to be criminals. Only skipping the school if they got sick of it. Like, the kids wouldn't have these thoughts on their own without this book.
Did the book seemed ok to you, or it's just I'm not normal and don't understand what's wrong with the book?

[Solominka]

Автор оригинала: IPshniK
Although The Catcher in the Rye caused considerable controversy when it was first published in 1951, the book—the account of three disoriented days in the life of a troubled sixteen-year-old boy—was an instant hit. Within two weeks after its release, it was listed number one on The New York Times best-seller list, and it stayed there for thirty weeks. It remained immensely popular for many years, especially among teenagers and young adults, largely because of its fresh, brash style and anti-establishment attitudes—typical attributes of many people emerging from the physical and psychological turmoil of adolescence.

It also was the bane of many parents, who objected to the main character's obscene language, erratic behavior, and antisocial attitudes. Responding to the irate protests, numerous school and public libraries and bookstores removed the book from their shelves. Holden simply was not a good role model for the youth of the 1950s, in the view of many conservative adults. Said J. D. Salinger himself, in a rare published comment, "I'm aware that many of my friends will be saddened and shocked, or shock-saddened, over some of the chapters in The Catcher in the Rye. Some of my best friends are children. In fact, all my best friends are children. It's almost unbearable for me to realize that my book will be kept on a shelf out of their reach." The clamor over the book undoubtedly contributed to its popularity among the young: It became the forbidden fruit in the garden of literature. For some reason—perhaps because of the swirling controversies over his written works—Salinger retreated from the New York literary scene in the 1960s to a bucolic New Hampshire community called Cornish, where he has lived a very private life and avidly avoided the press. Despite the fact that he has granted few interviews, there is a substantial body of critical and biographical works about Salinger and his all-too-brief list of literary creations.

http://www.enotes.com/catcher/27608

I liked the book:) I don't consider it a masterpiece but I liked it. As for obsene language and erratic behaviour - I imagine it would all be comparatively innocent nowaydas. :)

[Yanka]

Originally posted by Solominka


I liked the book:) I don't consider it a masterpiece but I liked it. As for obsene language and erratic behaviour - I imagine it would all be comparatively innocent nowaydas. :)

My question was how come some psychos love this book so much, but I don't expect you would give me the answer.

[Solominka]

Автор оригинала: Yanka


My question was how come some psychos love this book so much, but I don't expect you would give me the answer.

There hasn't been any research done on literary preferences of serial killers and other sociopaths. We would need to know what other books they read and liked... and what's their proportion compared to those killers that haven't read any books at all or didn't read this book in particular. And yet, this info may still be misleading - because it's a correlation.
So, somebody could read "The Catcher in the Rye" and then develop a taste for violence. Or they could develop a taste for violence and THEN start liking the Cacher in the Rye. Finally, they may have a traumatic event in their teens, which would be a precursor to both... We just don't know:)
Btw, I do like the book, but I am certainly not a psycho... or so I say, he he:):)

[Yanka]

Originally posted by Solominka


There hasn't been any research done on literary preferences of serial killers and other sociopaths. We would need to know what other books they read and liked... and what's their proportion compared to those killers that haven't read any books at all or didn't read this book in particular. And yet, this info may still be misleading - because it's a correlation.
So, somebody could read "The Catcher in the Rye" and then develop a taste for violence. Or they could develop a taste for violence and THEN start liking the Cacher in the Rye. Finally, they may have a traumatic event in their teens, which would be a precursor to both... We just don't know:)
Btw, I do like the book, but I am certainly not a psycho... or so I say, he he:):)

Ok, never mind.
I came up with such a question because I read a psychological book about some sick people. The Catcher in the Rye was mentioned as a bible for them. I wonder about it ever since.

[Solominka]

Автор оригинала: Yanka


Ok, never mind.
I came up with such a question because I read a psychological book about some sick people. The Catcher in the Rye was mentioned as a bible for them. I wonder about it ever since.

The title of the book?

[Yanka]

Originally posted by Solominka


The title of the book?

Gavin de Becker "The Gift of Fear" Мне её соседка зачем-то дала, а я её зачем-то прочитала. После ознакомления с этим чтивом, я больше недели в каждом человеке подозревала абьюзера. Don't recommend to read it to normal people.

[baraban]

Originally posted by Solominka


There hasn't been any research done on literary preferences of serial killers and other sociopaths. We would need to know what other books they read and liked... and what's their proportion compared to those killers that haven't read any books at all or didn't read this book in particular. And yet, this info may still be misleading - because it's a correlation.
So, somebody could read "The Catcher in the Rye" and then develop a taste for violence. Or they could develop a taste for violence and THEN start liking the Cacher in the Rye. Finally, they may have a traumatic event in their teens, which would be a precursor to both... We just don't know:)
Btw, I do like the book, but I am certainly not a psycho... or so I say, he he:):)

You forgot to mention that for this study to be statistically significant, we would need many more serial killers to study! I don't know about you, but generating serial killers is one need I wouldn't want to address!

[Solominka]

Автор оригинала: baraban


You forgot to mention that for this study to be statistically significant, we would need many more serial killers to study! I don't know about you, but generating serial killers is one need I wouldn't want to address!

Well, I don't even know how many serial killers are out there in the world, but yes, hopefully the number is small indeed!:cheers: